From: Paul Winkler (pw_lists_at_slinkp.com)
Date: 11/03/03 01:57 EST
From: Paul Winkler <pw_lists@slinkp.com> Subject: Re: [Ardour-users] cheapest setup for 96K recording Message-ID: <20031103065747.GF1085@slinkp.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 01:57:47 -0500 On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 12:30:05AM -0600, Joe Cooper wrote: > Paul Winkler wrote: > >On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 02:55:33PM +0000, philicorda wrote: > > > >>In the end though, I decided the investment was better spent on > >>improving room, mics etc.. I was just getting more accurate recordings > >>of things that were not sounding how I liked at source. > > > > > >I should have just said that and not blathered on so long :-) > > > >For myself, given a limited budget, I prioritize upgrades > >in roughly this order: > > > >1) microphones > >2) acoustics & monitoring > >3) mic preamps > >4) higher quality 24 bit converters > >5) 96k > > FWIW, I would put acoustics and monitoring first and second in this > list, if these areas aren't already well covered...It is the thing that > gets neglected in 'project studios' that produce records that sound like > they came from a 'project studio'. Even some of the best recordings > ever made have the lowly SM57 on snare, but I guarantee you that in a > bad room, you'll never get that sound with an SM 57 or any mic costing > 100 times more. No matter how sweet the gear, the crummy room is what > you'll hear. hmm.. as usual "it depends" :-) close-micing can reduce the effects of the room, sometimes to the point of inaudibility. But you can't do everything with close-micing. e.g. drum overheads are by definition not very close. same goes for piano micing etc etc... > And if you can't hear your mix, you can't possibly get it right. And > the most expensive monitors are still inaccurate in a room with lots of > bass frequency cancellation, and weird reflections. So, acoustics come > first. OK, very good point. My revised list: 1) acoustics 2) monitoring* 3) mics 4) everything else :-) > To bring this back on-topic, to measure my room, I generated a bunch of > sine waves in audacity, focussing on bass frequencies, and also a bit of > pink noise, all in a single ~5 minute long file. I then imported this > file into Ardour, and setup a mic in place of my head in the listening > position. (snip) This is a very good and educational thing to do, but I wonder what would happen if you do it several times with different mic positions. I predict there will be quite a lot of variation if you move the mic even 1 foot. Are you going to sit in that exact spot all the time? no! Testing several positions might make the constistently problematic frequencies all the more obvious. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com Look! Up in the sky! It's DINGO SUPER RAINCOAT! (random hero from isometric.spaceninja.com) ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ Ardour-users mailing list Ardour-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ardour-users
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