Re: [Ardour-users] 2 sound cards, and recording vs playback

From: David Merrill (dmerrill_at_media.mit.edu)
Date: 10/25/03 19:19 EDT


Message-ID: <3F9B04F1.6090207@media.mit.edu>
From: David Merrill <dmerrill@media.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [Ardour-users] 2 sound cards, and recording vs playback
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:19:13 -0400

Patrick Shirkey wrote:

> David Merrill wrote:
>
>> Hello there -
>> I have a RME Digi9652 and a SBLive! in my system, and I'm trying to 
>> use them together to do recording with Ardour. I can get things to 
>> sort-of work, but not quite, and some help would be greatly 
>> appreciated. Here's the situation:
>>
>> I *want* to record with the RME card, and use the SBLive! card as a 
>> monitor for listening. (is this a good strategy overall? I was 
>> noticing a delay when I used the RME card for monitoring, that's why 
>> I want to do it this way)
>>
>> - If I have my RME card as device 0 (in /etc/modules.conf), I can 
>> happily record with it, but I can't seem to get the SBLive! card 
>> working as a monitor. (I've tried routing output to Out1-Out18, and 
>> it doesn't work..)
>> - If I have my SBLive! card as device 0, I can monitor with it, but 
>> can't find the RME card in Ardour to record with.
>>
>> So - is there some trick to getting Ardour to see both cards? Or is 
>> it an ALSA trick?
>
>
> It's a trick whici can be done with the .asoundrc file but it is not 
> advised to do it for mission critical things like recording.
>
> You will have two individual clock sources which means the sounds will 
> get our of sync pretty quickly. Apart from that JAck is extremely 
> picky when it comes to latency and you will probably find that the 
> virtual device doesn't work.
>
> You're time is better spent working out why you are getting poor 
> performance from your RME card. It should work very well if your 
> system is tuned properly.
>
> Have you looked at the low latency howto available through djcj.org? 
> (see below)
>
>
>
Thanks for the note Patrick - I think the problem with the delay was 
that I was using a larger buffer than I needed to (it was set to 512 
samples as far as I can tell - based on how I was invoking jackd). So 
now I am using a 64-sample buffer, and I don't notice the delay anymore. 
However, I think that I'm getting the occasional click, so I'm going to 
up the buffer to 128 and see if that solves it.

I'm working my way through the tutorial at:
http://www.djcj.org/LAU/ardour/

and there are a few descriptions of the GUI and how to do things that 
don't seem to match the GUI that I have. For instance:

 - "Engage the /dynamic punch/ button in the transport controls" (I 
don't see this button)
 - "put the mouse into select mode, select the desired section" (in the 
tutorial there's a button that says "select", but not in my GUI)
 - "click on the /redirects/ button to the left of each /edit strip/ and 
then the /add/ button in the /dsp chain/ window which will popup" (this 
is for selecting FX for a track, which I really want to do!)

Thanks in advance for any help in mapping the tutorial onto the current 
version of the GUI (or helping me find these features, if I'm just 
overlooking them!)
cheers,
David



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