Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS for Linux

From: Jeff V. Merkey (jmerkey@timpanogas.com)
Date: Sat Sep 02 2000 - 18:01:24 EDT

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    Andi Kleen wrote:
    >
    > On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 03:34:47PM -0600, Jeff V. Merkey wrote:
    > >
    > > KDB is putrid. Can it debug double faults? NO. Can it debug complex
    > > register and numeric evaluation statements like IF ((EAX == 1) &&
    > > [ESP-4] == 0x3000)? NO. Can it debug nested task gate exceptions?
    >
    > remote gdb does that fine.
    >
    > I've never seen a nested task gate on Linux...

    Of course not. Linux does not have a kernel debugger, or it would use
    them. That's what they are used for -- debugging running tasks from a
    kernel debugger that has it's own task gates. If you have nested task
    gates, then you can debug the kernel debugger with them.

    >
    > > NO. Can it debug SMP locks races? NO. Can it debug priority inversion
    > > problems in sleep locks? NO.
    >
    > Given. Priority inversion does not seem to be a big problem in Linux though
    > (kernel threads usually run at the same priority, with the only higher
    > priority being interrupts/bhs). Also the sleep locking seems to be generally
    > simple enough that it is not a problem for user processes.

    It will be when Linux finally implements real sleep locks in the kernel
    instead of aliased semaphores.

    >
    > > Can the Kernel debugger in NetWare? YES. Can the Kernel Debugger in
    > > NT? YES.
    >
    > I guess they need it ;)

    I need it.

    Jeff

    >
    > -Andi
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