Re: What the Heck? [Fwd: Returned mail: User unknown]

From: Matthew Dharm (mdharm-kernel@one-eyed-alien.net)
Date: Sat Sep 02 2000 - 21:15:08 EDT

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    I missed the beginning of this thread, but I can guess what's going on
    here...

    According to the ORBS database, rr.com specifically requested all automated
    testing for open mail relays to stop. As such, ORBS lists all IPs in the
    rr.com domain as 127.0.0.4, which is their code for "manually entered".

    Unfortunately, nobody seems to check these codes -- they only check for
    their presence in the database.

    If you would like rr.com to change their policy, the listed contact is
    mherrick@va.rr.com. Note that RoadRunner appears to admit that they have
    open relays, but 'demanded' [word used by ORBS, not me] that all ORBS
    testing (which would provide for more selective blocking only of the actual
    bad machines) be stopped.

    Matt Dharm

    On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 08:54:44PM -0400, Albert D. Cahalan wrote:
    > Alan Cox writes:
    >
    > >> What is the deal here? I have NEVER seen anyboody flatly refuse email
    > >> from me. Are you telling me I have to go into work and use my
    > >> chris.k@redhat.com email address to talk to Alan? That's asinine.
    > >
    > > When you get as much spam aimed at you as I do because the address
    > > is so well known you'd understand.
    >
    > It is better to filter based on content. Neither method is really
    > accurate, but blocking all of rr.com is a major error. Block the
    > weird encodings, accept anything with "linux", etc.
    >
    > The rr.com service is expanding across the US. It is a cable
    > service recently bought by AT&T. It serves areas without ISDN
    > or DSL, so the only alternative is a POTS modem. The rr.com
    > service is much cheaper and usually faster than ISDN and DSL.
    >
    > So, expect more and more people to use the rr.com service.
    > It may grab a very large chunk of the US ISP market.
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