Re: Tux 2 patents

From: Jeff V. Merkey (jmerkey@timpanogas.org)
Date: Fri Oct 06 2000 - 14:52:05 EDT

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    And you only get the year of protection **IF** you have filed a
    provisional patent application, which expires 12 months after it's
    issued. You must then file a non-provisional patent application before
    the year runs out, or you cannot patent the techniques.

    Jeff

    Marty Fouts wrote:
    >
    > IANAL; this is not legal advice.
    >
    > The 'one year' you are referring to is from 'disclosure', not from released
    > product. "disclosure" in this case is a legal term-of-art. Further, there
    > is a difference between US and European Union patent law, in that, IIRC, EU
    > law requires patent application before _public_ disclosure. In effect,
    > "disclosure" means revealing the idea to anyone, inside your organization or
    > out, but there are all sorts of corner cases in the law.
    >
    > Nolo Press had a good book that discusses copyright and patent law, although
    > they may not have had the chance to update it to reflect recent changes.
    >
    > In any event, if you are serious about either getting or trying to overturn
    > a patent, you need to see a lawyer specializing in patent law, because case
    > law frequently changes the nuances in this area.
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: jesse [mailto:jesse@wirex.com]
    > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 10:53 AM
    > To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
    > Subject: Re: Tux 2 patents
    >
    > On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 09:13:25AM +0200, Daniel Phillips wrote:
    > > > Once you use the technique and it's documented as clear by a patent
    > > > lawyer, it will be safe for you to use forever, particularly if it's
    > > > in the public domain. This is winning....
    > >
    > > This is good to know, but what I was talking about is taking it *out of
    > > the closed source* domain. The idea is to take our best ideas out of
    > > the closed source domain. After a few years of doing that, it's my
    > > guess that the evil software patent system would keel over and die.
    >
    > IANAL, but I believe that once you've implemented a method in a released
    > product, you have only one year to file the patents for it. If you don't
    > file patents for it within this time period, it becomes public domain. I
    > think it would be possible to invalidate their patents, but I don't think
    > it would be possible to get your own patent on it after the fact and refuse
    > to let them use it.
    >
    > -Jesse
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