Re: [ANNOUNCE] Linux-NTFS project, first public release

From: Jeff V. Merkey (jmerkey@vger.timpanogas.org)
Date: Sat Feb 03 2001 - 21:42:57 EST

  • Next message: Anton Altaparmakov: "Re: [ANNOUNCE] Linux-NTFS project, first public release"

    On Sun, Feb 04, 2001 at 01:43:54AM +0000, Anton Altaparmakov wrote:
    > At 02:02 04/02/2001, Jeff V. Merkey wrote:
    > >On Sun, Feb 04, 2001 at 12:37:16AM +0000, Anton Altaparmakov wrote:
    > >I am noticeable impressed with your ability to address these issues.
    >
    > (-:
    >
    > >Microsoft would be much happier I am certain with a pure Linux solution
    > >for this problem. They have been incredibly tolerant in allowing
    >
    > Believe me, so would I! It's a long way to go to having a fully functional
    > ntfsck Linux utility, but we will get there eventually. And of course, the
    > actual driver is under heavy development both by Yuri Per of Acronis Ltd.
    > and myself at the moment (he is probably doing more than me as he does this
    > as part of a full time job...). In fact I am sitting on a very nice patch
    > for the driver at the moment but want to do some testing before I send it
    > off to Alan as it does quite a lot of fixing including a nasty race I found
    > staring at the code yesterday and several bug fixes and clean ups (or
    > rather rewrites of some functions almost) courtesy of Yuri. So the
    > importance of ntfsfix should become smaller and smaller as time goes on
    > until eventually we won't need it all. (-:
    >
    > >me to help customers with trashed drives, but I am sure you are
    > >aware that they were only tolerating it since it was helping
    > >customers who use both NT and Linux, and even this was quite
    > >a stretch they did not have to go. It's a statement that even in
    > >those cases where tey may be helping Linux, they put their customers
    > >needs first (this took some convincing on my part).
    >
    > Yes, I am aware of that. I very much doubt that Microsoft would be helping
    > Linux without an extremely good reason. I guess the only way part of
    > Microsoft might start working with/on Linux would be if the DOJ would split
    > the company up in two parts OS/Servers and Office apps. If that would
    > happen the Office part would have a growing market interest in a Linux
    > port, which at the moment is out of the question as Office is probably one
    > of the last barriers to a mass user migration to Linux. - Imagine all the
    > office and home environments where Windows is used solely for the purpose
    > of using Microsoft Word/Excel. They could all switch to Linux and many
    > would probably do so if Word/Excel would exist under Linux... It would be
    > very cost effective, too. - Oh well, one can dream. (-;
    >
    > >They are very angry at me right now for even doing this in the
    > >first place, and I doubt the relationship will ever be back on
    > >the keel it was originally, but since I work on Linux almost
    > >exslusively now, I do not think it matters.
    >
    > While it doesn't matter, I am sure things will improve over time.
    >
    > >Good Work, A++.
    >
    > Thanks! (-:
    >
    > Best regards,
    >
    > Anton
    >
    > > > At 01:16 04/02/2001, Jeff V. Merkey wrote:
    > > > >To date, I have provided tools to 7,000+ folks who use this driver that
    > > > >trash their NTFS partitions. TRG will discontinue distribution of these
    > > > >tools at this point since Anton has a Linux based version.
    > > > >
    > > > >Please do not email me for any more NT based repair tools for damaged
    > > > >NTFS partitions trashed by Linux. Please contact Andre and use his
    > > >
    > > > You probably meant Anton in the sentence above...
    > > >
    > > > >tools instead. I will inform Microsoft I will no longer be providing
    > > > >these tools since Anton now has something that will do the job.
    > > >
    > > > The NTFS disk edit utility you were providing does quite a lot more since
    > > > it is interactive. And my utility doesn't do everything I would like it to
    > > > do yet but it does work so I wanted to push a release out of the door
    > > ASAP.
    > > > But it doesn't really matter. The NTFS disk editor is a relatively freely
    > > > available utility as I found out recently, anyways. It is present on the
    > > > Windows NT4 Service Pack 4 CD! It's not mentioned anywhere in the
    > > > documentation but it sure is there among the service pack files. I managed
    > > > to dig the out in our College computer office and it's now officially
    > > mine.
    > > > That has the advantage of not binding you to the license of only using it
    > > > for repairing NTFS partitions... (-:
    > > >
    > > > Best regards,
    > > >
    > > > Anton
    > > >

    Hell will freeze, and the US will break off from the continental mass and
    sink into the oceans before I think MS will ever endorse Linux
    officially. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

    :-)

    Jeff

    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > Anton Altaparmakov <aia21 at cam.ac.uk> (replace at with @)
    > > > Linux NTFS Maintainer / WWW: http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-ntfs/
    > > > ICQ: 8561279 / WWW: http://www-stu.christs.cam.ac.uk/~aia21/
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    > Anton Altaparmakov <aia21 at cam.ac.uk> (replace at with @)
    > Linux NTFS Maintainer / WWW: http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-ntfs/
    > ICQ: 8561279 / WWW: http://www-stu.christs.cam.ac.uk/~aia21/
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